{"id":16698,"date":"2018-01-02T02:45:12","date_gmt":"2018-01-02T07:45:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/?p=16698"},"modified":"2018-01-02T02:45:12","modified_gmt":"2018-01-02T07:45:12","slug":"a-battery-mooch-post-prodna-red-40a-3000mah-18650same-as-their-2500mah-not-imr-do-not-buy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/archives\/16698","title":{"rendered":"A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Prodna Red 40A 3000mAh 18650\u2026same as their 2500mAh, not IMR, DO NOT BUY"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This cell has a hugely exaggerated 40A rating on the wrap. It can\u2019t even be considered a pulse rating. It identical to their Purple 2500mAh cell&#8230;an LG HE2\/HE4 rewrap!<\/p>\n<p>Any \u201cmax\u201d or \u201cpulse\u201d rating is useless unless we know the length of the pulse, the time between the pulses, and the criteria used to set the rating (Voltage sag? Temperature? Run time? A combination of those?). Without knowing this, and all companies using the same pulse lengths, rest times, and criteria, we can\u2019t use the max\/pulse ratings for comparing any batteries. They are useless.<\/p>\n<p>This battery says \u201cIMR 18650\u201d on the wrap but it does not use the battery chemistry associated with the IMR manufacturer\u2019s model number prefix. It uses the \u201chybrid\u201d chemistry sometimes identified with the INR prefix.<\/p>\n<p>The Prodna web site pages for their batteries use some sort of coiling kit contents list for the battery details and the reviews on the web site are still test reviews in the fake Latin used for placeholder text. This is confusing at best.<\/p>\n<p>I placed an order on their web site for eight cells but they were never shipped and Prodna ignored several attempts over a period of weeks to contact them via two email addresses. I only received my money back after filing a claim with PayPal. All of the cells I eventually tested were donated.<\/p>\n<p>This cell\u2019s appearance and performance is essentially identical to the LG HE2 and HE4. I estimate this Prodna\u2019s ratings to be 20A and 2500mAh. The LG HG2 is a clearly better choice as it hits harder and runs for longer than this cell.<\/p>\n<p>Their use of the same cell for this \u201c3000mAh\u201d as they use for their 2500mAh cell and its huge overrating earns this cell a Do Not Buy recommendation.<\/p>\n<p>The cells were donated for the purposes of testing. Thank you!<\/p>\n<p>Ratings graphic: <a href=\"https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/MNXwW\">https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/MNXwW<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Test results:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.e-cigarette-forum.com\/threads\/bench-test-results-prodna-red-40a-3000mah-18650\u2026same-as-their-2500mah-not-imr-do-not-buy.845071\/\">https:\/\/www.e-cigarette-forum.com\/threads\/bench-test-results-prodna-red-40a-3000mah-18650\u2026same-as-their-2500mah-not-imr-do-not-buy.845071\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using \u201crewrapped\u201d batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.<\/p>\n<p>Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery\u2019s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.<\/p>\n<p>To see how other cells have tested check out this link: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.e-cigarette-forum.com\/forum\/blog-entry\/list-of-battery-tests.7436\/\">https:\/\/www.e-cigarette-forum.com\/forum\/blog-entry\/list-of-battery-tests.7436\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/147021DD-AD85-4C1D-B273-59FFE7A20A35-e1514879066459.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-16699\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/147021DD-AD85-4C1D-B273-59FFE7A20A35-e1514879066459.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"190\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/dot.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Reddit\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"A%20BATTERY%20MOOCH%20POST%3A%20Prodna%20Red%2040A%203000mAh%2018650%E2%80%A6same%20as%20their%202500mAh%2C%20not%20IMR%2C%20DO%20NOT%20BUY\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This cell has a hugely exaggerated 40A rating on the wrap. It can\u2019t even be considered a pulse rating. It identical to their Purple 2500mAh&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[139,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16698","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-battery-mooch","category-recent_news","wpcat-139-id","wpcat-15-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16698","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16698"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16698\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16700,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16698\/revisions\/16700"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16698"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16698"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16698"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}