{"id":17819,"date":"2018-07-20T05:12:33","date_gmt":"2018-07-20T09:12:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/?p=17819"},"modified":"2018-07-20T05:16:15","modified_gmt":"2018-07-20T09:16:15","slug":"a-battery-mooch-post-aspire-35a-3000mah-18650-preposterously-overrated-incorrect-aspire-data","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/archives\/17819","title":{"rendered":"A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Aspire 35A 3000mAh 18650&#8230;preposterously overrated, incorrect Aspire data"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This one made me angry. Aspire has a good reputation so my expectations were high. But for this cell they decided to roll us back a couple years and use a hugely exaggerated current rating without mentioning it is some sort of \u201cpulse\u201d rating.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The wrap on this cell just says \u201c35A\u201d. We can only assume, since there is no (useless) \u201cmax\u201d or pulse\u201d designation, that it means this cell is rated to 35A even for a continuous discharge. Except that during a continuous discharge at that level the cell gets hot enough to boil water and one cell failed during its first discharge at 35A.<\/p>\n<p>Some other concerns&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>A paper insert included with the cell seems to indicate that they are claiming this cell has a continuous rating of 20A. A \u201cVaping Simulation\u201d rating of 30A is also given by them on the insert. Where does the 35A rating on the wrap come from then?<\/p>\n<p>What happens if this paper insert is lost or cells are taken out of their boxes for display in a shop? There would be no indication as to how exaggerated the 35A number on the wrap was.<\/p>\n<p>The discharge graph for this cell on Aspire\u2019s web site, now deleted but included below, showed temperatures about 20\u00b0C lower than I measured, a huge difference. I am unable to explain this. The temperatures on Aspire\u2019s discharge graph don\u2019t match those on their paper insert either.<\/p>\n<p>The four cells I tested delivered 2944mAh, 2964mAh, 2989mAh, and 3077mAh at 0.6A (0.2C) down to 2.5V. Only one of the four met its 3000mAh rating. One other came close though. But every cell should easily beat the capacity spec as it\u2019s just a minimum guaranteed value. It should not be the maximum you can expect.<\/p>\n<p>These cells performed a bit worse than LG HG2\u2019s but it\u2019s probably not noticeable in a regulated mod. The shorter run time of this Aspire versus a 30Q or VTC6 might be noticeable though.<\/p>\n<p>I am estimating this Aspire\u2019s ratings at 20A and 2900mAh. It appears to be a China manufactured cell, probably from Long Deli New Energy Company, Ltd., which Aspire has used before.<\/p>\n<p>Immediately after testing I fired off an email to Aspire basically yelling at them for all the things mentioned above. We spent a lot of time talking and I agreed to include a statement from them in this test report. I\u2019m happy to say that they are willing to take the unsold stock of this battery and rewrap them all with more accurate ratings.<\/p>\n<p>Four cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Aspire (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.aspirecig.com\">http:\/\/www.aspirecig.com<\/a>). Thank you!<\/p>\n<p>Aspire\u2019s statement: <a href=\"https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/U1Yp5J3\">https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/U1Yp5J3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ratings graphic: <a href=\"https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/jeyl0fo\">https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/jeyl0fo<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Test report: <a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/2O0TU0t\">https:\/\/bit.ly\/2O0TU0t<\/a><\/p>\n<p>These tests only note the estimated ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using \u201crewrapped\u201d batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.<\/p>\n<p>Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery\u2019s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.<\/p>\n<p>Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/C58F6D71-1A8A-41E8-84EC-094EDE51F91C-e1532077906835.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17825\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/C58F6D71-1A8A-41E8-84EC-094EDE51F91C-e1532077906835.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"193\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/dot.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Reddit\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"A%20BATTERY%20MOOCH%20POST%3A%20Aspire%2035A%203000mAh%2018650...preposterously%20overrated%2C%20incorrect%20Aspire%20data\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This one made me angry. Aspire has a good reputation so my expectations were high. But for this cell they decided to roll us back&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[139,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17819","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-battery-mooch","category-recent_news","wpcat-139-id","wpcat-15-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17819","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17819"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17819\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17827,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17819\/revisions\/17827"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17819"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17819"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17819"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}