{"id":18012,"date":"2018-08-19T03:45:22","date_gmt":"2018-08-19T07:45:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/?p=18012"},"modified":"2018-08-19T03:45:22","modified_gmt":"2018-08-19T07:45:22","slug":"a-battery-mooch-post-juiced-20a-3000mah-18650-accurately-rated-sort-of-seems-identical-to-samsung-30q","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/archives\/18012","title":{"rendered":"A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Juiced 20A 3000mAh 18650…accurately rated (sort of), seems identical to Samsung 30Q"},"content":{"rendered":"

These cells look the same and perform essentially the same as the 15A 3000mAh Samsung 30Q. Samsung rates the 30Q at 15A continuous but the datasheet mentions operation at 20A. Never let these cells exceed 75\u00b0C if running them at 15A-20A. The Samsung 30Q is a great performing battery though.<\/p>\n

The two cells I tested delivered 3108mAh and 3109mAh at 600mA down to 2.5V.<\/p>\n

I had some questions regarding Juiced saying their cells were specifically developed for vaping. I have asked Juiced about this and am waiting for their response.<\/p>\n

Juiced uses \u201cIMNR HYBRID\u201d on the wrap as, it seems, a battery chemistry designator but I have never seen that used before. The IMR and INR manufacturer model prefixes (they\u2019re not chemistries) are common though. INR is already a prefix used for \u201chybrid\u201d chemistry cells so using IMNR is a bit confusing in my opinion. But, each company is free to create any designator they want.<\/p>\n

The Juiced web site says that this cell uses a \u201cLithium-Manganese, Nickel\u201d chemistry. The Samsung 30Q uses NCA chemistry though, nickel-cobalt-aluminum. If this is not a 30Q then perhaps it is NMC chemistry, nickel-manganese-cobalt? That is a common chemistry used by vapers. It looks and performs the same as a 30Q though.<\/p>\n

The Juiced web site mentions that they spent years researching and testing the best 18650\u2019s, found this cell, and then improved it. I have requested info on what changes they have made. I have also requested the summaries of their previous testing as I am sure our community would love to know how different cells performed for Juiced. Any other test results we can get is great to have!<\/p>\n

I am ESTIMATING this Juiced cell\u2019s ratings to be 15A continuous, 20A temperature-limited to 75\u00b0C, and 3000mAh.<\/p>\n

Five cells were purchased for the purposes of testing by me.<\/p>\n

Ratings graphic: https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/tqiGagQ<\/a><\/p>\n

Test report: https:\/\/bit.ly\/2BmdLVR<\/a><\/p>\n

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These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using \u201crewrapped\u201d batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.<\/p>\n

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery\u2019s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.<\/p>\n

Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.<\/p>\n

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