{"id":19351,"date":"2019-08-16T00:58:07","date_gmt":"2019-08-16T04:58:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/?p=19351"},"modified":"2019-08-16T00:58:08","modified_gmt":"2019-08-16T04:58:08","slug":"a-battery-mooch-post-xtar-30a-45a-4200mah-21700-almost-accurately-rated-appears-to-be-molicel-p42a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/archives\/19351","title":{"rendered":"A BATTERY MOOCH POST: Xtar 30A\/45A 4200mAh 21700&#8230;almost accurately rated, appears to be Molicel P42A"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This cells looks and performs identically to the great performing Molicel P42A.<\/p>\n<p>Xtar rates this cell at 30A continuous and 45A \u201cmax pulse discharge\u201d. While both ratings are spelled out on the wrap in tiny text a different larger \u201c45A\u201d is much more clearly seen on another part of the wrap. I prefer to just see the continuous current rating shown this way to allow for direct comparison between cells.<\/p>\n<p>The Molicel datasheet for the P42A only lists a 45A \u201cmaximum discharging current\u201d rating with a max temperature cutoff of 85\u00b0C. This means you can use the P42A at up to 45A as long as the cell stays below 85\u00b0C. This should be easy to do as 85\u00b0C is frakkin\u2019 hot. Just realize that this cell in an autofiring device, or a mech that accidentally has its button being pressed, could easily exceed this temperature by a LOT if you are set up to vape at 45A.<\/p>\n<p>I am giving this cell a 30A continuous current rating since that is as high as you can go while not exceeding the 85\u00b0C cutoff. This matches Xtar\u2019s 30A continuous rating. To extend cell life, minimize voltage sag, and increase your safety margin, I recommend staying at 25A or under per cell. That\u2019s about 75W.<\/p>\n<p>The two cells I tested delivered 4073mAh and 4145mAh. This is not very good consistency. While it meets Molicel\u2019s 4000mAh minimum capacity rating for the P42A it does not meet Xtar\u2019s 4200mAh rating. I am rating these Xtar\u2019s at 4000mAh.<\/p>\n<p>Two cells were donated for the purposes of testing by Xtar (http:\/\/www.xtar.cc). Thank you!<\/p>\n<p>Ratings graphic: <a href=\"https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/zPQzs9d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/imgur.com\/a\/zPQzs9d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Test report: <a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/2N5qkc9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/bit.ly\/2N5qkc9<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I want to work for the vaping community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability, battery and charger testing and news, and a say in what I test then, please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/batterymooch\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/batterymooch<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>These tests only note the ESTIMATED ratings for these batteries at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using \u201crewrapped\u201d batteries or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.<\/p>\n<p>Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of personal injury or property damage. They are not meant to be used outside of a protected battery pack. Never exceed the battery\u2019s continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.<\/p>\n<p>Any rating in my ratings tables can change at any time as different grade cells appear on the market, we get swamped with fakes, or new information becomes available to me. Please, never assume that the ratings in the tables are permanent and will never change! Always download the latest version before considering any cell purchase.<\/p>\n<p>To see how other cells have tested check out this link: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.e-cigarette-forum.com\/forum\/blog-entry\/list-of-battery-tests.7436\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.e-cigarette-forum.com\/forum\/blog-entry\/list-of-battery-tests.7436\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/AFC7EA46-B2D7-4F8C-8150-6AB1D945AE98-e1565928854515.jpeg\"><\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/dot.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Reddit\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"A%20BATTERY%20MOOCH%20POST%3A%20Xtar%2030A%2F45A%204200mAh%2021700...almost%20accurately%20rated%2C%20appears%20to%20be%20Molicel%20P42A\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This cells looks and performs identically to the great performing Molicel P42A. Xtar rates this cell at 30A continuous and 45A \u201cmax pulse discharge\u201d. While&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[139,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-19351","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-battery-mooch","category-recent_news","wpcat-139-id","wpcat-15-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19351","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19351"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19351\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19352,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19351\/revisions\/19352"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19351"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19351"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tasteyourjuice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19351"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}